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I'm Amanda Knox, and you're listening to Hard Knocks.

I'm Amanda Knox, and you're listening to Hard Knocks.

Today on Hard Knocks, I interview Andrea Werhann, who is the author of Modern Hoare and also the co-creator of the Modern Horror documentary, which is an adaptation of her hybrid memoir and photo book about her life of as a sex worker.

Gosh, fascinating conversation because, of course, I think as all of us, we have certain ideas and expectations about the sex worker industry and what it means and how moral it is and all of it.

And I think the thing that was most compelling about speaking with Andrea and her work is how it really asked me to like like, put, press pause on my feelings and intuitions and to go back to my, like, base philosophical principles and ask myself, what is the difference,

if any, between sex work and regular work? And also to just, I mean, her, her, the film that is

making the circuit right now, modern horror, is a hoot to watch. Like, it is, it's, it's, it's like

wild, it's stylized, it's comedic, it's whimsical. It's, it's itself is a great film. So I recommend people watch it. But in the meantime, please enjoy this conversation where me and Andrea talk about sex work, what criminalization does to it, what introducing labor laws to it would look like, and how we like grapple with all the weird feelings we feel about it and whether or not those are justified.

Excited to speak with you, Andrea. Thank you so much for coming on hard knocks.

Oh, thank you for having me. Yes. Okay. So I just got done watching the documentary. I mean,

what a tour of force. Like it is just, it is just, like, visually beautiful, extremely compelling.

Blah.

Is that just, like, a perfect recreation of your memoir?

Like, how did the turning of it into a documentary take place?

Yeah, I would say that it is a pretty good visual representation of the book, which in and of itself is both a combination of stories and a visual element, you know, because it's got photography taken by Nicole Bezine, who's also the director of the feature film.

And so I read a review where someone said

it's not quite an adaptation of the book. It's more an adaptation of the experience of reading the book.

Ah, okay, okay, awesome. So it is really meant to feel like a storybook come to life.

Got it, yes. Tell me about that relationship with your co-author and the director. How did you come about

meeting each other and putting together this, this memoir, picture book, documentary? Yeah, tell me about it.

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