Welcome to Pezpod. Our sixth episode. My name's David Poyser. I'm a journalist. And today we're

going to have a short chat with a small Pez that's made big steps in people management.

I'm very lucky to be with Caroline Moncel, interim director general of

Acteris, the Pez for the Brussels region of Belgium, where she's led a team successfully

implementing participative management. The Pez Network thinks some of the success in

Acteris may have benefits for other pairs. So, Caroline, hello.

Hello.

Now, are we going to have any dogs?

Is your dog going to come in and say hello to us?

Well, perhaps.

She's asleep right now, but she might barge in and start barking,

depending on who passes by in the street.

But, okay, I'll tell her we're looking

for it what's she called Stella it's a lovely name for a dog

especially in Belgium exactly exactly you've set up a Stella Stella stellar, STL-L-A-R management system.

Can you tell me about it?

Well, it's actually called participative management.

Sometimes some people also call it holocracy or sociocracy or co-steered teams.

Well, several words are used.

Yes, we did that.

It's actually a different management style

where people get the power to co-decide

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