There's a better way to do this, let me show you a better way, you don't have to be.

Well, high folks, this is Jack Spirko, another edition of the Survival Podcast,

this is all at least one man's view of the changing world, the changing times and the

things we can all do to a better life, if times get tough or even if they don't.

Today is episode 3303 of the Survival Podcast, it is Wednesday, that means it's interview

day and we have our special guest today, Rebecca Anderson-Belonka, and we're gonna call

her Becca, because that's what it says she is called in her application, be on the show.

She works for NRCS, oh no, not the government, yes, the government, but of all the organizations

that are existing within the United States federal government, NRCS is probably the most

helpful in the least damaging of them, and they have some really great programs, honestly,

and yeah, I'm opposed to stealing money, but I'm not opposed to getting it back, so if

you're a small farmer, or if you could be considered a small farm, there's actually quite a

bit of assistance that NRCS can give, and it's to do things you probably wanna do anyway,

like put up high tunnels, improve your soil, they also do things like free consulting,

basically take a look at what you're doing and give you some advice, which you are under

no obligation to solve, and they do a lot of other great stuff, and Becca is one of us.

She has her permaculture design course certification, and she actually taught part of a PDC in Houston.

She's a certified holistic management international, let's all say everything, and she went through

the soil food web course and certification under Elaine Ingram.

That's about as all natural is gets right there, and so I was really excited to have

her reach out to come on and talk about how NRCS specifically can help small farms, people

involved in urban agriculture and things like that, and as I always say, it's kind of like

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