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I'm Jarvis.

I'm Jordan.

And I'm Dipper.

We were literally just about to start the show, and Dipper just became the center of attention.

He was like, I will be front and center here.

He's looking right into the camera, too.

We have Zach here playing the role as Jordan of Um, I hope you've been practicing your accent. I have been. Uh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'm actually, uh, it's been really hard for me to get Jordan's green card revoked. It was a lot of work. Um, but I'm, you know, uh, you put in the work, you put in the dedication,

you believe you can make things happen. 10,000 hours, you know, Malcolm Gladwell. Malcolm Gladwell, I worked really hard and I sent his ass back home. 10,000 hours is a lot of fucking time. Yeah. Like it sounds, you need that much. I don't think you need that much because, no, I was able to get Jordan deported in

2000 hours

reported

This is so funny

He is you need that much because no i was able to get jordan deported in two thousand hours

reported this is so funny he is such a funny little baby dipper was doing a thing before we

started recording where he kind of snuggled his body behind yeah he just walked behind you

and he was like you figure it out i'm comfortable and i'm hoping i get it back,000 hours is four and a half years of full-time work. Yeah. Okay. Well, maybe it just sounds good on paper. It does. Because we also looked up like how many waking hours are there in like a year and it's way fewer than you would expect. And yeah, so Malcolm Bluble is on some bullshit and I'm calling him out. I don't know. There's no reason that I, I think that's already been debunked, by the way, the 10,000 hour. I think most of the pop psychology stuff. It's a nice idea. It's a nice idea. Do a thing a lot. You'll get better at it. Exactly. It's like that joke. How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice, practice. Oh, that's funny. It's like an old Jewish dad joke. That's fun.

So Malcolm Gladwell just wrote a whole book based off that joke. Yeah, that's kind of, honestly, a lot of like pop psychology, I feel. Though he seems like a, I don't know anything about that man. Malcolm Gladwell. I was going to say he seems like a nice guy, but then I like Maybe he's not that we don't know that We don't know look you dunk on it all you want But I think it's a reminder that people need Because everyone's afraid to try new things They're that's what I do They're afraid Someone needs like if you're gonna be a guy You gotta try you know what I'm? There's a fundamental fear of failure because we don't like looking bad as a people. True. But you're not good at anything the first. Even when you play a new video game, you don't understand how Link jumps up and does his little cool sword move. Yeah, it's very true. You have to be bad at things to get better. And so I think any of the stuff we're talking about, whether it's Malcolm Gladwell or any self-help book you want, it's just reminding you, it's okay to be bad. In fact, it's a beautiful thing to be bad. That's the place where growth happens. Zach, where are you bad at? Everything. Everything I do on bad. I have a decade of being bad at stuff online. I've made a career out of it. Is there anything that you were bad at that you really wanted to improve and then you did? You were like, I'm going to get good at this. No, weirdly, like most of the things that I've tried, I never do again. Well, because of your job probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, but like, if I'm doing something a second time, that's not content. Yeah. I've already tried that. But even that, that act of doing something new, like, it pushes you just like one degree out of your comfort zone. And I think that I think, in a way that I think is really good for you as a person. Yeah. I loved pottery when we did it. And I had a moment of like, oh, I'll be a discount Seth Rogen. I'll smoke less weed and make worse pottery. Right. And thank you, Dipper. Thank you. He did not like that idea. Should we move on? Maybe we'll just move on. I want to the story. Do not speak ill of Seth. Maybe we'll just move on.

Maybe I don't need to tell a story.

It's fine.

You think you're Seth.

Come on.

But you make pottery?

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