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The Good Fight

How (Not) to Change Minds

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.7 • 963 Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2020

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Zion Lights has long been an environmentalist activist. When Extinction Rebellion was founded two years ago, she became one of its informal leaders, organizing highly disruptive events and representing the organization in the media. But over time, she came to doubt both its strategy and its policy commitments. Did disrupting public transport really help to persuade the public of the urgency of fighting climate change? And shouldn’t environmentalists who deeply care about climate change embrace nuclear energy? In the latest episode of The Good Fight, Zion Lights and Yascha Mounk debate the best way to reduce carbon emissions; how activists can (and can’t) persuade the public; and what it is like to change your mind about an issue when your peers are outraged by the conclusion you have come to. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: goodfightpod@gmail.com Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John T. Williams and Rebecca Rashid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is Cat Rosenfeld. I am a freelance culture writer and Persuasion's advice columnist,

0:08.0

and today I'm inviting you to read my latest long-form essay, Love Hurts, subtitle,

0:12.6

So Let's Stop in Fantalizing Women and Demonizing Men.

0:16.4

For a long time, our society has been preoccupied

0:19.0

with the notion that sex is degrading to women,

0:21.6

dating back to a time when a marriageable daughter was a valuable

0:24.4

commodity whereby upper class families could increase their power and prestige.

0:29.2

But a hundred years after feminism's first wave, this anxiety over women and sex is still with us, wrapped up in contemporary

0:35.8

progressive concerns about trauma, consent, and the Me Too movement. The damage in question

0:41.8

is emotional, not material, but the fear is the same that women will be ruined by sex.

0:48.0

It's a big thing on the left particularly in the wake of me too to argue that the relationships between men and women are all about power and hence that women are perpetually

0:56.4

disadvantaged always on the precipice of victimhood. The result is a dating landscape where every relationship is seen as a potential pathway to abuse.

1:04.8

Nobody trusts each other and sex itself has become problematized. It seems dangerous and not fun at all.

1:11.6

In my essay, explore how a noble impulse to protect young women from

1:14.9

discomfort or unhappiness has led to this toxic measma and how we might find our way out of it by

1:19.7

reacquainting ourselves with the radical notion that women are people who can handle a little discomfort or even a broken heart.

1:27.7

Cat Rosenfeld's piece called Love Hurts was published by persuasion.

1:33.2

To learn more about the community we're building at persuasion and to get similar articles

1:37.4

directly into your inbox, head to www. Persuasion. community. W. Sure, we can speculate that terrible things can happen. Let's speculate about the terrible things that will happen.

1:57.5

If we don't bring down our emissions, you know, I'm not advocating nuclear for fun, I'm advocating for nuclear because we need to

2:03.9

bring down our missions. I think we're all in agreement about that and even right

2:07.3

now we have no plan to bring them down. And now the good fight with

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