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DSR's Words Matter

How Much Worse Can It Get? (Spoiler Alert: Way Worse)

DSR's Words Matter

Riley Fessler

News, Government

4.62.9K Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

If the current political climate wasn’t bleak enough, Donald Trump is now calling for his political enemies to be executed. The transgression of these military and CIA veterans? Calling on their military colleagues to uphold the Constitution. The president is calling for unprecedented levels of political violence and his administration cronies are supporting him. David Rothkopf and Norm Ornstein are back to discuss the terrifying implications for our democracy. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

9, 12, 10, 28, 2, 23.

0:17.0

This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third

0:24.3

sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C., and from other undisclosed locations

0:31.0

across America and around the world.

0:34.8

Hello, and welcome to Words Matter. I'm David Rothkoff. I'm your co-host, you know,

0:40.0

the shy demure one on this show, joined by the outspoken, eloquent, and pretty much all was right.

0:49.3

Norm Ornstein. How are you doing, Norm? You know, I'm feeling a little bit better right now, David, for this reason.

0:56.3

Today, Trump called for the death of Democrats in Congress.

1:01.7

But he didn't call for the death of you or me.

1:04.9

So you could say almost literally today, we've dodged a bullet.

1:10.2

Well, obscurity has its benefits, Norah.

1:16.4

It's the...

1:17.8

But I want to say to all of our listeners,

1:20.4

obscurity has its benefits,

1:22.2

but that doesn't mean you should subscribe and spread the word.

1:26.5

Well, that's right.

1:27.4

We're only obscure to those who resist informed perspectives like our president.

1:36.1

But I don't, I'm literally as we're doing this podcast, I've just been writing a column of

1:40.6

what you were talking about there.

1:42.4

And I hope to finish it when we're done.

1:44.7

But it'd probably be better because I'll get to talk to you about it.

1:47.7

And, you know, Trump has done this before.

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