How Much Worse Can It Get? (Spoiler Alert: Way Worse)
DSR's Words Matter
Riley Fessler
4.6 • 2.9K Ratings
🗓️ 20 November 2025
⏱️ 43 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | 9, 12, 10, 28, 2, 23. |
| 0:17.0 | This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third |
| 0:24.3 | sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C., and from other undisclosed locations |
| 0:31.0 | across America and around the world. |
| 0:34.8 | Hello, and welcome to Words Matter. I'm David Rothkoff. I'm your co-host, you know, |
| 0:40.0 | the shy demure one on this show, joined by the outspoken, eloquent, and pretty much all was right. |
| 0:49.3 | Norm Ornstein. How are you doing, Norm? You know, I'm feeling a little bit better right now, David, for this reason. |
| 0:56.3 | Today, Trump called for the death of Democrats in Congress. |
| 1:01.7 | But he didn't call for the death of you or me. |
| 1:04.9 | So you could say almost literally today, we've dodged a bullet. |
| 1:10.2 | Well, obscurity has its benefits, Norah. |
| 1:16.4 | It's the... |
| 1:17.8 | But I want to say to all of our listeners, |
| 1:20.4 | obscurity has its benefits, |
| 1:22.2 | but that doesn't mean you should subscribe and spread the word. |
| 1:26.5 | Well, that's right. |
| 1:27.4 | We're only obscure to those who resist informed perspectives like our president. |
| 1:36.1 | But I don't, I'm literally as we're doing this podcast, I've just been writing a column of |
| 1:40.6 | what you were talking about there. |
| 1:42.4 | And I hope to finish it when we're done. |
| 1:44.7 | But it'd probably be better because I'll get to talk to you about it. |
| 1:47.7 | And, you know, Trump has done this before. |
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