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The Briefing Room

How much trouble are UK universities in?

The Briefing Room

BBC

News, News Commentary

4.8731 Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2024

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

David Aaronovitch and guests discuss the current financial crisis facing UK universities and ask what can be done about it.

Guests:

Branwen Jeffreys, BBC Education Editor Nick Hillman, Director of The Higher Education Policy Institute Madeleine Sumption, Director of the Migration Observatory at the University of Oxford and member of the Migration Advisory Committee Alan Manning, Professor of Economics at the London School of Economics

Production team: Sally Abrahams, Kirsteen Knight, Miriam Quayyum and Ben Carter Editors: Richard Vadon Production Co-ordinator: Gemma Ashman Sound engineers: Neil Churchill

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:08.4

The funding of universities and their students has a strange capacity for upending governments and politicians.

0:16.1

Top-up fees nearly did for Tony Blair in the noughties,

0:19.1

and a decade later, the fees issue was an

0:21.5

albatross around the neck of Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg. Right now, we may be heading for

0:27.5

another crisis, with, in the last week, the Education Secretary Julian Keegan and the Foreign Secretary

0:33.4

David Cameron, among those ministers warning Rishi Sunak that government plans to cut

0:38.8

overseas students' numbers may lead to a crisis in our colleges.

0:43.6

A crisis which would face whichever parties in government after July 4th.

0:49.0

So how close to the brink are our universities and how much do they depend on foreign students?

0:55.8

Step inside the briefing room and together we'll find out.

1:01.8

First, the essential facts.

1:04.2

Brownwyn Jeffries is the BBC's education editor.

1:07.2

Brownwin Jeffries, how many people actually go to university right now?

1:17.3

And how does that compare to 10, 20, 30 years ago, or even when I went a little bit longer than that?

1:22.0

Well, if you look at the most recent official figures we have from a couple of years ago,

1:26.4

and it won't have changed very much, you're talking at just under 3 million,

1:30.2

so 2.86 million students in the UK,

1:36.7

from the UK, the EU and non-EU students, all of them together, are going to university.

1:44.9

If we think about what's changed just in the UK, we've seen a seismic shift over the last 20, 25 years.

1:55.7

So by the age of 20, around 47% of English students and UK students are going to university.

2:02.4

If you went back to the turn of the century, you'd be looking at around a third. And of course,

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