How much should we consider the role of moral luck?
Moral Maze
BBC
4.4 • 623 Ratings
🗓️ 19 November 2025
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
The Channel 4 documentary, ‘Hitler's DNA: Blueprint of a Dictator’ has carried out a controversial genetic analysis of the Nazi leader. The test shows "very high" scores - in the top 1% - for a predisposition to autism, schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. This not a diagnosis, however, and there have been concerns about whether such speculation stigmatises these conditions.
While we shouldn’t seek to explain a person’s moral character and actions simply through genetics, there are many other aspects of our lives we can’t control, and which can nevertheless influence our behaviour and the judgements of others. These, include our upbringing and the circumstances we happen to be placed in (war, oppression, abuse) as well as the outcome of our actions (e.g. whether someone happens get away drink-driving, or not). If this is all a question of moral luck, how much should it be taken into consideration in our judgments of others? And where does that leave human agency, responsibility and culpability?
One view is that moral blame should be based solely on someone’s intentions and the choices they make. Moral responsibility, it’s argued, rests on rational will, and unlucky life chances should not excuse bad or criminal behaviour. However, in the criminal justice system, mitigating circumstances, while not excusing bad behaviour, are presented to reduce the severity of a person's culpability.
How do we untangle what is in someone’s control, and what is a matter of luck, when it comes to the combinations of nature and nurture that make up the people we are? If we focus too much the things we can’t control, would we ever be able to make any moral judgments at all? Or should we think more about the presence of moral luck in our everyday lives and work harder to understand rather than blame?
Chair: Michael Buerk Panel: Matthew Taylor, Sonia Sodha, Jonathan Sumption and Inaya, Folarin-Iman. Witnesses: Kirsty Brimelow, Peter Bleksley, Susan Blackmore and David Enoch. Producer: Dan Tierney
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| 0:07.0 | Hello, I'm Emma Barnett. For most of my career, I've been on live radio, and I love it. |
| 0:13.3 | But I've always wondered, what if we'd had more time? How much deeper does the story go? |
| 0:19.2 | I remember having this very sharp thought |
| 0:21.7 | that what you do right now, this is it. |
| 0:24.3 | This defines your life. |
| 0:26.0 | I'm ready to talk and ready to listen. |
| 0:28.3 | I'm insulted by how little the medical community is ever bothered with this. |
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| 0:38.7 | Good evening. In a strongly competitive field, Adolf Hitler would be many people's racing |
| 0:43.9 | favourite for the title of Worst Human Being Ever. 80 years after he blew his brains out in the Berlin |
| 0:50.4 | Furember, they've done a DNA analysis of his blood that had soaked into the sofa |
| 0:55.1 | he was sitting on. It apparently shows that he had a very high, top 1% in fact, predisposition |
| 1:01.2 | to autism, schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. It doesn't mean he actually had any of those |
| 1:06.9 | conditions, and there are those who say this research merely stigmatises those who do. |
| 1:12.2 | But it does raise the whole question of moral luck. |
| 1:15.9 | To what extent are our characters, our motivations, our choices and what they lead to, |
| 1:20.8 | shaped by things out of our control? |
| 1:23.2 | Not just our genetic inheritance, our upbringing, our circumstances. |
| 1:27.3 | Even the freakery of chance that dictates dire consequences for an action that some get away with, Scott Free. |
| 1:34.3 | How far should we take all this into account? |
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