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I think that what meditation does, what mindfulness does, is it helps you realize that you have mindsets, that the world, your beliefs aren't just sort of a reflection of reality as it is.

That like could be this way or could be that way.

And you kind of like sit back and you sort of see the kind of absurdity of it all.

So that's part of it.

But then what, right?

Then you need to go live your life.

Like then you need to get back in the game.

And so it's, you know, it's stepping back in and say, now I'm going to live my life.

And I'm going to choose to view stress as enhancing.

Hello and welcome to the psychology podcast where we explore the depths of human potential.

I'm your host, Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, a cognitive scientist and Columbia professor.

On this episode, we have my dear friend, Dr. Ali Crum, whose research focuses on how

changes in subjective mindsets, the lenses through which information is perceived, organized,

and interpreted, can alter objective reality through behavioral, psychological, and

physiological mechanisms.

Her work is, in part, inspired by research on the placebo effect, a remarkable and

consistent demonstration of the ability of the mindset to elicit healing properties in the body.

She is interested in understanding how mindsets affect important outcomes outside the realm of

medicine in the

domains of behavioral health and organizational behavior. More specifically, she aims to

understand how mindsets can be consciously and deliberately changed through intervention to

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