We say they're sort of like people don't like cyclists.

It's kind of funny because everyone loves bikes.

We've been riding bikes since we were as little as you start to walk and you get a bike.

And it's such a right of passage. There's so many children learning to ride a bike.

You know, there's an analogy, you fall off your bike,

you get back on.

So there's this real love about bikes.

There's 70,000 streets in London

if you just took one space from each

and turned it into a bike space,

that's 700,000 bikes. So the scale of it

and the potential to just kind of reduce that car dependency and parking spaces, we even moved

to more shared car models, does they make way for this mode of transport that is completely

reshaping the way that people get around.

We heard from the beginning when you fundraise, it's a quick yes, long no.

So if you don't hear from Vivi for a long amount, the longer they leave it, the more likely

it's going to be no.

If they're going to say yes, they'll say it quick.

So when you don't hear back, you know, within the first few days, kind of forget, like, forget about it.

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