Hi, I'm Julia Farlane and this is NPR's Life Kit.

As you could probably tell by the title of this episode

or any number of things that led you here,

we're talking about friendship.

And look, I don't want to brag,

but we brought our absolute dream team,

some of the highest ranked podcast guests in all of friendship.

I feel like we're like the Michael Jordan of friendships.

Like you can't ask Jordan.

You can't ask Jordan how he does what he does.

He's a freak of nature.

You know it's an anomaly.

Like this is phenomenally rare.

That's Rafael Cazal, who we talked to

along with his best friends, David Diggs and Utkarsh Ambudkar.

All three of them are multi-talented artists,

performers, their singers, their hip-hop artists,

they're everything.

You can find their names in the credits

of about a squillian project, but here are just a few.

The Mindy Project, Hamilton, Pitch Perfect,

the movie Blind Spotting, which Rafael and David

...