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What Next - How Long Will It Take the Death Penalty To Die?

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News, Politics, News Commentary

4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 22 March 2019

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

California has a new moratorium on executions, despite the fact that voters upheld capital punishment twice in recent statewide elections. Could this mark the beginning of a lasting policy change?

Guest: Jordan Steiker, director of the Capital Punishment Center at the University of Texas School of Law.

Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Jayson De Leon, and Anna Martin.


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0:00.0

Let me first and most importantly thank the extraordinary turnout legislative leadership of the state.

0:12.0

Last week, Governor Gavin Newsom of California got up in the rotunda of the Sacramento Capitol

0:18.0

and made what was billed as a major policy announcement.

0:24.7

It is humbling to see everybody here assembled today.

0:32.2

But this announcement was more like a policy argument, a closing statement, a full-threaded case against the death penalty.

0:35.3

The question really is, do we have the right to kill?

0:39.4

Do we have the right to kill?

0:43.0

That's a deep and existential question.

0:46.1

I don't believe we do.

0:48.7

I know those things people think is eye for eye,

0:52.0

but if you rape, we don't rape.

0:54.8

I think if someone kills, we don't kill. We're better than that.

0:59.4

Newsom was declaring a moratorium on executions, but he presented it as a kind of personal choice.

1:05.8

He said as the person in charge of signing the death warrants for the 737 people on California's death row.

1:12.1

He just couldn't do it.

1:14.9

And we are, as I speak, as I speak, shutting down, removing the equipment in the death chamber at San Quentin.

1:27.1

And then his office sent on a tweet.

1:30.1

Pictures of the electric chair and the lethal injection table being loaded onto a truck and carted away.

1:36.4

I think it's sort of dramatically illustrating his commitment to not have executions go forward.

1:43.8

Jordan Steiker has been watching this announcement play out.

1:47.0

He's a death penalty lawyer in Texas.

1:49.6

It's one thing to say, you know, I'm unlikely to sign death warrants going forward because I'm troubled by the practice.

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