How Labour should (but probably won’t) reset after Reform’s big win
Pod Save the UK
Pod Save the UK
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🗓️ 8 May 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
There’s no ifs or buts - Reform had a won big in last week’s local elections - but it’s not all bad news. Near-total Tory wipeout, positive signs for the Liberal Democrats and Greens and a lesson for Labour: acquiescing to Nigel Farage will only empower him.
A slightly jetlagged Nish and a fresh as a daisy Zoë digest the results before diving into demands to end Israel’s occupation of Gaza… Led by, of all people, rebel tories? In the wake of the Netanyahu’s latest actions, why isn't the British Government speaking up more?
Later, the pair are joined by climate activist Patience Nabukalu, for an injection of hope following her direct action calling for an end to fossil fuel investment from one of the UK’s biggest banks.
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Patience Nabukalu
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Number 10 Downing Street
Zack Polanski
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| 0:00.8 | Amazon offers term time working to their employees, like Anton, |
| 0:07.4 | who's home to look after his daughters during their holidays. |
| 0:10.0 | Hello! |
| 0:10.8 | To him, this is the best sound in the world. |
| 0:17.2 | Actually, maybe that's the best sound of all. that's term time working offered at amazon 10 weeks |
| 0:25.7 | off guaranteed per year mix of paid holiday and unpaid time off conditions apply hi this is pod save the UK |
| 0:33.4 | I'm nish kama and I'm zary green of old, we're back in the studio. How's your jet lag? |
| 0:38.3 | I am thrilled to be back in the studio. |
| 0:40.3 | I got back to the United Kingdom two days ago at 6am. |
| 0:44.3 | My body is inside out and upside down. |
| 0:46.3 | But apart from that, I'm ready and raring to go. |
| 0:49.3 | Okay, well, this might not be the news you want to come back for, Nish. But today we're going to be talking about reforms win at the local elections, |
| 0:57.4 | and of course where Labor goes from here. |
| 1:00.0 | Let me guess. Is it going to be swinging wildly to the right? |
| 1:03.1 | We'll also be talking about Netanyahu's monstrous plans to occupy Gaza. |
| 1:06.5 | Then later, an injection of hope. |
| 1:08.4 | Thank God for that. |
| 1:09.7 | We'll meet the climate activists on a mission to get banks to divest from polluting industries, |
| 1:15.0 | Patience Nabukali. |
| 1:20.1 | Okay, so first things first, the local election results. |
| 1:23.8 | There are no two ways around this, and it gives me absolutely no pleasure to say it, |
| 1:27.3 | but it was an |
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