Welcome to Current Affairs. My name is Nathan Robinson. I'm the editor-in-chief of Current Affairs

Magazine. I am joined today by Malika Jabali. She is senior news and politics editor at Essence

Magazine. Her writing has appeared in numerous publications, including Teen Vogue, The Guardian, and, most

importantly, Current Affairs, where her feature the color of economic anxiety, actually is, I believe,

the only current affairs piece ever to win an award.

It won the 2019 New York Association of Black Journalist

Award for magazine slash feature writing. So thank you, Malika, for writing the objectively

best thing to ever appear in our magazine. And you are now the author of the brand new book.

It's not you.

It's capitalism.

Why it's time to break up and how to move on Malika Jabali.

Welcome to Kurt Affairs.

Thank you.

Glad to be here.

Thanks for having me.

Now, I have to say you have produced, along with

illustrator, Kayla E, who deserves credit here because the illustrations in this book are

fantastic, you have produced not only one of the most fun introductions to socialists

thought that I've ever read, but one of the most beautiful and

one of the most interesting kind of conceptually, because you compare the capitalism to a toxic

relationship.

And so I want to begin with a question for you that might ask like the set up to a joke,

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