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Life Kit

How introverts and extroverts can be better friends

Life Kit

NPR

Health & Fitness, Self-improvement, Kids & Family, Education, Business

4.33.9K Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Introverts and extroverts move through the world differently and sometimes friendships can suffer when those differences clash. Reporter Yowei Show, host of the podcast Proxy, explores the science of personality to help you bridge the divide in your own friendships.

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0:00.0

You're listening to Life Kit from NPR.

0:06.0

Hey, it's Mariel.

0:08.4

Reporter Yo-Wei Shah is an introvert who loves her extroverted friends.

0:12.8

She wants to make that clear.

0:14.2

There's just one problem.

0:15.9

Sometimes the energy is off.

0:19.2

The other week, I was hanging out with an extroverted friend who I love dearly,

0:24.6

and I felt pressure to match their energy, which I obviously didn't succeed at. And after the hang,

0:31.9

I was like, what just happened? Why does hanging out with this person I love feel so bad? I bet it wasn't fun for

0:40.1

them. While there isn't one agreed upon definition, generally extroverse tend to be more

0:46.6

talkative, outgoing, energetic, and really into socializing, and introverts tend to be more

0:53.1

introspective, quiet, deliberate, and really into

0:56.3

alone time. But this is a spectrum, not a binary, and many of us fall somewhere in between the two.

1:02.6

The thing is, there are a lot of people along this continuum who just don't quite get each other.

1:08.6

And it's like really awkward to talk about because it feels like you're saying

1:13.3

essentially, I love you, but I'm having a hard time with your personality. Like that's, that's a

1:20.3

harsh thing to say to a friend. Yo-way is the host of the podcast proxy, where she uses her

1:26.2

reporting skills to investigate exactly these kinds of emotional conundrums. podcast proxy, where she uses her reporting skills to investigate exactly

1:28.5

these kinds of emotional conundrums. On proxy, she connects people with a proxy, a stranger with

1:34.1

relevant experience with their issue and none of the personal baggage. On this episode of

1:39.6

Life Kit, Yo-Wea talks out her issues with a proxy, an extreme extrovert, calls herself an introvert ally and has made it part of her life's work to help introverts and extroverts create strong partnerships at work.

1:52.3

You'll hear about the common complaints each camp has about the other and get practical advice on how to have a better time and be better friends with people on the other side of the

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