How Inequality Distorts the Law - ft. Katharina Pistor
Capitalisn't
University of Chicago Podcast Network
4.5 • 584 Ratings
🗓️ 19 February 2026
⏱️ 49 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | So if you think a constitution is actually the framework within which we constrain power, power of the state in particular, but I would also say we have to extend this to private power. |
| 0:09.0 | Then we also have to think about how does actually the private law fit in if we want to give, you know, a priority or at least that's sort of a very important role in the world for collective self-governance, not only for individual rights over others. |
| 0:24.2 | I'm Bethany McLean. |
| 0:25.9 | Did you ever have a moment of doubt about capitalism and whether greed's a good idea? |
| 0:31.1 | And I'm Luigi Zengales. |
| 0:32.2 | We have socialism for the very rich, rugged individualism for the poor. |
| 0:38.0 | And this is Capital Isn't, a podcast about what is working in capitalism. |
| 0:42.0 | First of all, tell me, is there some society you know that doesn't run on greed? |
| 0:46.5 | And most importantly, what isn't? |
| 0:48.4 | We ought to do better by the people that get left behind. |
| 0:51.3 | I don't think we should have killed the capital system in the process. |
| 0:54.8 | So when we talk about the market, we usually picture people buying and selling. |
| 0:59.1 | But there's a hidden layer of software of sorts running in the background, a legal code that |
| 1:04.8 | determines who gets rich, who stays poor, and who gets to skip the rules entirely. |
| 1:09.6 | We spent years on this show talking about |
| 1:12.5 | our industries capture the government. But what if the problem is deeper? What if the very laws |
| 1:18.7 | of properties and contract, the private law we use every day, have been hacked by, let's say, |
| 1:25.2 | the 1%. This is the provocative thesis of Columbia law professor Katerina Pistor. |
| 1:30.4 | In her work, she argues that the code of capitalism hasn't just been written for the wealthy. |
| 1:36.0 | It's been weaponized to protect them from the rest of us. |
| 1:39.8 | She said that when you sign a contract or buy a stock, you aren't just making a deal. |
| 1:44.6 | You're entering a system where the rules are designed to favor the person with the most expensive |
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