Adam Smith In The Age of The “Epstein Class” - ft. MP Jesse Norman
Capitalisn't
University of Chicago Podcast Network
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🗓️ 26 February 2026
⏱️ 56 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | You should never get lose sight of the idea that why do we have a market? |
| 0:03.3 | What's the point of a market? |
| 0:04.7 | Everyone thinks that markets are somehow objects that arose, they were handed down by Moses, |
| 0:08.8 | they come out of human interactions, they've been willed by God or whatever. |
| 0:11.8 | Actually, markets are human creations, and they evolve in different ways. |
| 0:16.7 | And we can, for better or worse, shape ways in which they evolve. |
| 0:20.3 | And we don't always have to think of every intervention as a stupid intervention. |
| 0:23.6 | It doesn't necessarily a disaster. |
| 0:25.5 | I think it's interesting about Smith is the number of interventions that he's prepared to tolerate |
| 0:30.4 | in order to achieve other social goals. |
| 0:34.7 | So he never loses the idea that what really matters is the legitimacy |
| 0:38.2 | of the whole polity within which markets are operating. I'm Bethany McLean. Did you ever have a |
| 0:47.1 | moment of doubt about capitalism and whether greed's a good idea? And I'm Luigi Zengalis. We have socialism |
| 0:53.3 | for the very rich, rugged individualism for the poor. |
| 0:58.0 | And this is Capital Isn't, a podcast about what is working in capitalism. |
| 1:01.9 | First of all, tell me, is there some society you know that doesn't run on greed? |
| 1:06.4 | And most importantly, what isn't? |
| 1:08.4 | We ought to do better by the people that get left behind. |
| 1:11.3 | I don't think we shouldn't kill the capital system in the process. |
| 1:14.7 | There is a phrase that has entered the political vocabulary in the last few months, Epstein class. |
| 1:20.8 | It refers not only to one disgrace individuals, but to something broader. |
| 1:24.3 | A social world of extreme wealth, elite networking, private jets, |
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