So the way I've always approached it is just like can I build businesses that don't really require me right and that's kind of like how I look at cash flow

So when I look at my house living company where I put very little effort into it's been a cash cow. Yeah. It's clearly defined how I see business in life and so like to me that's financial independence.

Fine dude. What's up man? What's up man?

What's up man? Good to be here.

Dude, it's awesome to be here. Dude, it's awesome to be here.

I'm so pumped about this.

So, do you realize that it's been five years

since I met you at that real estate mastermind

with Brandon in Hawaii.

It's kind of crazy to think about.

It's been a fast five years.

Yeah.

Dude, I was thinking like when I met you down there,

I want to say back then that was 2019, you were just flipping houses right yeah

did so all this that you've done has happened since then five years yeah it's

crazy and you know they say like you overestimate what you can do in a year but underestimate what you can do in five years.

It's been crazy to watch what you built here. It's awesome. Yeah, no, it's kind of crazy too because it was during that mastermind I was talking to

investor girl Brett and we were in a little like

mastermind together because we had small groups and she was like you really need to

take social media seriously yeah and at the time I had

like 5,000 Instagram followers so it wasn't like nobody but no YouTube no Tik-Toc and

none of that stuff and it made like, it was kind of like the first seed

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