Michael, welcome to Locked in. Thanks for having me. We're at your house in Arizona. Just interviewed

your lovely wife. Talked a lot of crap about you. So we'll have to set the record straight.

But thanks for having me, man. We've been talking about doing this for a few months. I'm glad we can make

this happen. Thanks for making the time. And thanks for having me on your show as well. That's on

YouTube. It will be on YouTube by the time this comes out. And on your show as well that's on youtube um it will be on

youtube by the time this comes out um and you guys are great man i love it thank you my first time

in uh arizona we're honored that you flew all the way um over here and it's super cool to like

sit with you because we've been watching your channel for quite a while now so well you guys

have an interesting stores not every day you meet like that inmate that marries a prison guard. You guys caught my attention on TikTok and you guys are just nice people. You know, you're so nice. Appreciate it. Yeah, I'm glad we got to me and I'm glad whoever commented on your video saying to do my show. It is cool seeing that. I see so many people tagging me now. I feel like I'm the go-to person. I thought she was like a scout. I was like, oh, Ian Bick must have like scouts to look for interesting stories because she tagged you and me and then I just sent you an email and so. Yeah, now like whenever someone of celebrity or a regular person's talking about prison on TikTok. I get tagged. Okay. You should do Ian Vick's show. And does it result in a lot of... It all depends. Like I've read. I actually, so here's an interesting story. You might have seen it because it was on the West Coast. So this guy got out of prison for serving after serving, I don't know, maybe like 20 years or something.

And his girlfriend had made him a TikTok and passed it to him.

Okay.

And she, it like started to blow up.

And he's like, they got married while he was in prison or something.

Tall, skinny, white guy.

So this happens.

He's getting famous.

And then another woman comes out and says, that guy is the person that killed my husband and left my kid's fatherless.

Holy cow.

This is my take on it.

And this happened like 10 or 15 years ago.

Younger woman, probably in her 40s or something, her TikTok goes viral. So I had seen his TikTok like weeks prior just another like prison story, you know, I didn't respond or reach out or anything. Then I see hers and it had my interest because it's not every day you have that. And then she went viral because she's like, why are we platforming someone? This is the whole story.

Yeah.

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