Hello and welcome to trigonometry I'm Francis Foster. I'm Constantim Kishin.

And this is a show for you if you want honest conversations with fascinating people.

Our brilliant guest today is a former social justice warrior and she's also the co-host of the

unsafe space which I've had the privilege of being on.

Kerry Smith, welcome to Trigonometry.

Hi guys, thanks for having me.

It's so great to have you.

Listen, tell everybody who are you, how are you where you are,

what has been the journey that leads you to being here

talking to us?

So I currently host the Unsafe Space Podcast with my friend Carter Laren and we are more we're not a political podcast we're more of a I

would say we're a cultural podcast a bit like you guys I just I think that we

necessarily end up talking about politics sometimes more than others.

I mean with the elections recently we're talking a little more about politics.

So it's sometimes necessary but most of what we focus on are ideas and philosophy.

And on the show we do interviews, we do a live show on Mondays and Fridays, and then we do a

deep dive show called deep programmed which is more of an examination into my old ideology which I most often call social justice.

Right and you talk about being deep which I most often call social justice. Right.

And you talk about being deprogrammed,

it's called deprogrammed.

Tell us, first of all, how you got programmed.

So, yeah, I was indoctrinated is the way I view it into social justice ideology.

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