We did the first closing in February and the final closing in April. You know, look, I've been

around for a while and I am a big believer in windows. And this window felt like it was just

open too long. And so given the nature of what we do, you need real money behind it.

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Hey folks, my guest today is Albert Santalo. He's a computer scientist and internet

entrepreneur with experience in high growth venture-back technology companies. He's now

building a low-code development platform called 8Base, recently made a nice pivot and

looking forward to catching up today. Albert, you ready to take us to the top? Absolutely.

Great to see you, Nathan. Great to see you too. So my gosh, first off, this is a very competitive space. There's a ton of

free tools. How are you positioning yourself? Yeah, I mean, look, it's, it's competitive and it's not.

I mean, if you look at the real competition is people building things from scratch. So, you know, I would say in some areas,

yeah, there's, there's been solutions that have come out and made a difference. But there's

still a lot of greenfield opportunity here. I'd say we're in the first or second inning still.

Yep. Now, you, when we last spoke, this would have been back in early 2021, actually. You told me, you know, your largest customer was

$240,000 a year. You know, you had 1,200 customers paying on $100 a month on average. You're

doing about $1.5 million in total ARR. And you, I believe you were basically bootstrapped outside

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