So you're about to break, call it like $1,000 a month, right?

You go get that here shortly.

Yeah, that ballpark.

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Hey, folks.

My guest today is Phil Reynolds.

He's currently the CEO and co-founder of DevStride.

Previously, he led Brightcore to Series B, led by Warburg Pinkis at $180 million post.

And then he's recently closed $3.3 million precede to build and grow Dev Stride,

which is strategic portfolio

management for agile teams. Phil, you ready to take us to the top? Absolutely. Thanks, Nathan.

All right. So no bootstrapping for you, huh? It's VC or bust? Well, I bootstrap my last

company for quite a while. And when I learned that process, Bright Core. And so Bright Core for was bootstrapped for quite a few years. And when I learned that process, Bright, Bright Core. And so Bright Core for was bootstrapped for

quite a few years. And we really enjoyed that. We enjoyed growing the company and more lifestyle.

But what I learned at the end of it by the time I went and raised money was, boy, I could have got a lot to

done a lot faster had I just gone out and raised money to begin with. And what are some things you could have done faster you think? And give us some context.

Like how many years did you bootstrap and what did you grow revenue to before you raised outside

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