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How Good Was John Cena Actually?

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🗓️ 14 December 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Simon Miller answers the question "How Good Was John Cena, Actually?" by breaking down the Cenation leader's career across several categories, scoring him on everything from presentation to WWE drawing power.


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0:00.0

So it's over, my friends. The time is no longer now. It's a stupid thing for me to say. John Sina has officially retired. If anything like me, you're quite sad about this and filled with feelings of nostalgia. And you can never really call anybody in wrestling the goat because there'll always be an argument. What about this person? What about that individual? But John Sina, from this day until the day that I leave this earth, as far as I'm concerned,

0:22.3

has to be in the conversation.

0:39.2

Now, of course, we're going to do a deeper dive into this to actually go through his career. When it comes to pro wrestlers, especially of the modern day, John Sina man, he had the tippity wippity wippity wippity top. I mean, you know this has to be true because what were people calling him when he did end his last WW run, the greatest of all time. It wasn't just Michael Colan commentary.

0:37.8

It wasn't just a lot of his peers that were out there and do him interview. because what were people calling him when he did end his last WWE run, the greatest of all time?

2:18.1

It wasn't just Michael Cole on commentary. It wasn't just a lot of his peers that were out there and do interviews. It was even those like Triple H would say when it comes to John Sina. He's absolutely brilliant. And do not forget how long his run on top was. I mean, you can look at a Steve Austin, you'll look at a Rock, you could even look at a Hulk Hogan, John Cena surpassed them all as being the face of WWE, and even if he had turned around, after his last show and gone, I'm only kidding, I'm going to do another 12 months. Of course, some people on social media would have kicked off about this, but the vast majority would have been so damn happy. Once again, he's just a dude. I don't even care that he did that hill turn early in 2025 because I just thought it was a hoot to enjoy with everybody else. And also, you have the scenario that if we hadn't have done that, the second half of 2025 may not have been as good, because even though he did just shrug-a-moji, drawing that promo with Cody Rhodes, but he did go back Babyface. From that point on, that was around about July, August time, all the way through to December, it was just like having Christmas every single day. Now, you can't always do that because Christmas would become ridiculous. But any time, Johnson would turn up on TV, you would find that remote control and you would tune in because you knew the sandglass was about to be empty and you wanted to sap up as much as possible. So of course it makes perfect sense that we turn to our series where we do ask the question was this wrestler as good as everybody says they are? That's not what it's called at all, but we've done it with Ker Angle, we've done it with the Dudley Boys and because YouTube is a topical place, we are going to sit down and do it with John Sina. And yes, I will try and present this as fairly and non-bias as I can. But note deep down in my tum-tum, just think he's the absolute best. Because flood me sideways, do I love John Sina? So category one is presence slash look slash presentation, if you've not seen one of these videos before. It essentially comes down to the Brat Hart method that he used in his autobiography, where he would take your look, he would take

2:22.2

your promo skills, and he would take your wrestling talent, I suppose, and rank them out of 10. I believe

2:27.9

he gave himself a 10 for wrestling, an 8 for look, maybe a 7 for look, and a 3 for promos,

2:33.4

where he obviously would put different numbers on different people. Now, if we are going to take what a wrestler should like from a WWE perspective, I don't care who you man, who you are, John Siener has got to get a 10, like if you were going to find Vince McMahon, of course, was in charge when John first debuted and told Vinny Boy to scribble down a picture of what he wanted to see, he would have drawn Rod Sina. Then we'd have drawn Brot Lesner, then he would try to smash him together. He also passes the silhouette test in the sense you can look at him, just go, it's definitely John Sina. And there's the airport test as well. I'm sure you've heard about this a thousand times. For whatever reason, if you were a WWE superstar, Vince McMahon wanted you to get stopped in airports. I suppose the idea before social media was, it was just good advertising. Oh my gosh, look at that hamhawk. Let me try and find out what they do. Maybe I'll go spend money on a show. Dean even went one step further when it came to his merchandise, because again, we bought up Brat Hart. What colours would you associate with him? It'd be pink and black. Steve Austin would just be black. The Rock never really had a colour scheme, but I guess that would be black too. Of course, Taz made sure he trademarked the colour orange. But John Sina decided, no man, I'm not going to worry about that. You could pick orange, you can pick green, you can play boo, you can put pink, I can't even talk anymore. But genuinely, look at every single shade of the rainbow. You can go on WW shop right now and they will have a John Cena T-shirt available in that colour. That is just next level. That is just ridiculous. And you're only able to do that for someone that can sell merchandise like it is going out of fashion,

3:58.3

and yet it never did for like 25 years.

4:00.8

As soon as Sina did take off in around 2005, to the point he retired in 2025, it was just

4:06.3

buy a t-shirt, buy a cap.

4:07.8

Remember that Australia show in 2025, Crown Dural?

4:11.2

At one point, it looked like literally everybody was wearing a John Sina T-shirt, and that's going back to Austin levels. And yes, in 2011, the Rock certainly jumped on that for their few, but did it hurt? Like, did all of a sudden Sina's merchandise sales drop? No. In fact, I think if you go and look at the numbers, they actually increased, and that's because no matter what kind of obstacle John Sina was facing. If he had something

4:31.5

can sink his teeth into and if the WWE was as hot as it needed to be, everybody would just

4:36.4

flock to this guy. Where do you think John Sina wins Loll came from? Because he won. He also was built

4:42.1

like an absolute monster and never really changed his physique for two decades ever and we all know

4:46.4

about his charisma.

5:05.3

But you know actually something that worked for him and definitely tied into the law of John Sina, and most certainly the presentation that he put out there, it was the division of the audience. Now, one of the reasons it sucked so bad when Roman Raines was meant to take his crown and everybody started to boo him is that, oh, we can't do this again. But that wasn't the case when John took over.

5:22.0

In like 2007, I would believe, is when the booze really started. This was incredible. It was like, well, let's look at the numbers, right? TV ratings are where they need to be. He clearly moves tickets when it comes to live shows. And when he does headline a pay-per-view, they're at steady at the very best. But then in the actual arenas, there was a portion of people, usually men,

5:37.6

80 to 49, who was just going to jeer this dude, whereas female wrestling fans and kids would be like, excuse me, he's our hero, we don't care what you're going to do. So we are now going to try to counter your noise. With our own noise, Just pick a show, pick a pay-per-view, pick an event, it doesn't matter. When all of this worked, even with the Let's Go, Sina Suna sucks chance, it just made you feel like you're a part of something, and the atmosphere was perfect. And do you know what any good main event needs? Atmosphere. And wrestlers and a referee in a ring, otherwise it's going to be nothing. The best way to break this down is that John Cena was more over than anybody on the roster.

5:55.6

I think that's a word that kind of gets misconstrued in 2025, but being over just means having people care about you. I'm sure, some of that has come down to being popular as well, but even if people are going to be so mad that they are going to make noises, go, oh man, I can't believe it. It still meant

6:11.2

that when his music hit, an entire packed arena went totally crazy. So even if you'd never

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