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Imaginary Worlds

How Folklore Spirited Anime Away

Imaginary Worlds

Eric Molinsky

Fiction, Arts, Society & Culture, Science Fiction

4.82.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2026

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Anime and manga are a global phenomenon, and their popularity continues to grow. Many of these stories are populated by supernatural beings called yōkai. Even though yōkai can be portrayed as ghosts, demons, or monsters, they're rarely purely good or evil. We trace the history of yōkai from ancient folklore to Studio Ghibli films and shows like Dan Da Dan. I talk with scholars Kaitlyn Ugoretz, Deborah Shamoon, and Michael Dylan Foster about why these supernatural beings have captured people's imaginations, how they became central to modern pop culture, and the role they play in Japan even in times of national emergency. Deborah’s book, “Text and Image: Making Meaning in Manga and Comics” is available in the Fall. Kaitlyn’s YouTube channel is Eat Pray Anime. Michael Dylan Foster wrote several books on yōkai To support the show, you can donate on Patreon where you get access to the ad-free version and our companion show Between Imaginary Worlds.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to Imaginary Worlds, show about how we create them and why we suspend our disbelief.

0:05.8

I'm Eric Molinsky.

0:07.7

I've been a fan of anime for most of my life, but I'm also a casual fan.

0:12.8

I'm like the equivalent of somebody who says they're into a band or a musician, but they mostly know the greatest hits and not a lot of the deep guts.

0:22.2

Recently, someone recommended to me a show called Dan to Dan.

0:26.6

And when I started watching it, I felt like it was aimed at a younger audience, which is another issue for me.

0:32.9

A lot of anime is aimed at a younger demographic, which I've aged way beyond. But I got hooked

0:39.3

on Dan to Dan immediately. In fact, it actually kind of reminded me of all the conflicted feelings

0:45.1

I used to have as a teenager. The show starts with an argument between a nerdy boy named

0:50.2

Okaroon and a quick-tempered girl named Momo.

0:56.6

He tells her, aliens are real.

1:01.9

The U.S. military admitted UAPs exist and reform their space force.

1:04.5

And now Japan has a aerospace defense force.

1:06.7

Don't you see everyone's gearing up for war? She thinks that he's crazy.

1:08.9

But then she admits,

1:10.8

I don't believe aliens are real, but I believe ghosts are.

1:15.4

There's no such thing as ghosts.

1:17.4

It turns out they're both right.

1:20.4

From that point on, the characters are relentlessly pursued by ghosts and aliens.

1:30.8

The show is completely bonkers and extremely bingeable.

1:35.3

And as you can tell, I'll be playing the English dubbed versions of anime in this episode.

1:41.3

Now, the ghosts in the show are not like the kind of ghosts that I'm used to seeing.

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