How far might Russia go to win in Ukraine?
Ukrainecast
BBC
4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 23 June 2023
⏱️ 36 minutes
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Summary
With Vladimir Putin scaling up his rhetoric over use of nuclear weapons we turn our attention to Russia in this episode.
The BBC’s Russia editor Steve Rosenberg and the Washington Post’s Catherine Belton look at the chance of a nuclear attack, the state of the opposition in Russia and why the latest intervention from Wagner Group chief Yevgeny Prigozhin could provide an important clue to a possible major policy shift by the Kremlin.
We also hear from Evgenia Kara-Murza about the plight of her husband Vladimir, a British-Russian diplomat sentenced to 25 years in prison by a Moscow court for high treason.
And we assess the impact of a terrorist attack on the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant following a warning from President Zelensky that Russia is considering such an action.
Today’s episode is presented by Victoria Derbyshire and Vitaliy Shevchenko. The producers were Arsenii Sokolov, Ivana Davidovic, Drew Hyndman and Tom Smithard. The technical producer was Mike Regaard. The series producer is Tim Walklate and the editor is Sam Bonham. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480
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| 0:00.0 | BBC sounds, music, radio, podcasts. |
| 0:04.7 | Hello, it's 485 days. |
| 0:08.1 | 485 days since Russia began its invasion of Ukraine. |
| 0:11.1 | It's full invasion of Ukraine, and there's seemingly |
| 0:13.6 | an unusual weapon being deployed in this war. |
| 0:17.0 | The UK Ministry of Defence is latest intelligence note this morning. |
| 0:28.7 | Highlights are doubling of floating mammal pens |
| 0:33.3 | in Russia's Sevastopol naval base on the Black Sea. |
| 0:37.2 | And they say that bottlenose dolphins |
| 0:39.4 | have been trained for a range of missions, |
| 0:42.0 | particularly countering enemy divers. |
| 0:45.2 | But it's the increasing threat of nuclear war |
| 0:49.1 | that is really concentrating minds in Ukraine. |
| 0:52.7 | This is Ukraine's interior minister Ihor Klamenko speaking on State TV |
| 1:03.6 | and describing what to do in case of a nuclear incident. |
| 1:08.7 | The messages get inside, stay inside for at least 24 hours |
| 1:13.3 | and decontaminate yourself. |
| 1:15.5 | But hold on, up popped Wagner Group chief, |
| 1:18.4 | you've got any progursion today? |
| 1:21.0 | Apparently a close ally of Vladimir Putin still, |
| 1:24.0 | and he's throwing another spanner in the works. |
| 1:29.2 | The Ministry of Defence is trying to deceive the public, |
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