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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots and Spectators' daily politics podcast.

I'm Katie Bulls and I'm joined by Isvahardman and Fraser Nelson.

So we have news today of another MP saying they plan to stand down the next general election

but it's not a Tory MP. It's actually the Green Party's only MP Karanan Lucas.

Isvahardman is spoken about the pressures of her role. What do you make of her decision?

Yes so this is a sort of Tony Ben leaving Parliament spend more time doing politics

exit rather than someone who's who's fundamentally had enough of the the political world.

Karan Lucas obviously the only Green MP ever the sole Green MP in Parliament at the moment

has had to really work out how to operate as a political loner throughout her career and

it's been very interesting to see how she's done that and how she has had to sort of trim back

her expectations as well because when you're not in a party and you don't have the structures

that are often popularly maligned like the whips for instance you just do not have time to keep

across the parliamentary timetable to keep across a legislative agenda to keep across a detail

of legislation and I remember when I met up with her a few years after she'd been elected she

said that she just decided that she had to focus on certain things because there was no way she

could stay across everything and she also had to rely on the help also of like minded MPs particularly

in the Labour Party who would tell her what their whip was or what their faction was going to do

in terms of a particular vote so that she could work out where to go and she also has had some

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