It's pretty hard, I think, for high school kids right now because their dreams are being crushed by the transfer portal and their dreams are being crushed by NIL Dills and international athletes.

And I don't even know if these college coaches would say this is the best thing for the sport.

But they do have a job and match their jobs to win and they got to get a paycheck.

So I get it, But at the same time,

it's heartbreaking for me to have kids who graduate and don't go on to running college

because they won't lower their standards and expectations. And I think the message for like

a current high school athlete is like you got to go where

you're wanted right and if you're not getting responses from coaches like no responses

a response they don't want you ladies and gentlemen that was coach Kellyensen, head coach of Nywatra High School, based out of Boulder, Colorado.

I've had him on the podcast once after his boys' team won NXN last year, and I had to get him back on the podcast again after his boys team again won NXN, this time in a meet record of just 61 points remarkable result remarkable

program that continues to push the boundaries of success and dominance in high school cross

country today we break down a lot of the insights of what it takes to go back to back getting your

program to a place where they can even achieve something

like making NXN, much less winning it, much less winning it twice. We talk about Coach Kelly's

perspective on some of the changes in the NCAA from NIL to international transfers to

roster limits. We also talk about the future of the sport, how it affects the high school athlete. We talk about what it took to win back-to-back meets and the pressure and expectation. We talk about the attributes that the sport gives the next generation and so many other things. I always love my conversations with Coach Kelly. He's a great man, great coach, and affects the lives of so many. So Coach Kelly, if you're listening to this, always appreciate you, man.

Keep crushing it. And if you're listening here, share the podcast with a friend. That's the easiest way in which we can grow. Give us a five-star view. It takes next to no time and make sure you're following the podcast so you never miss another conversation. I hope you all are having an amazing holiday season. I hope the podcast can accompany you on some good runs.

I hope you're having some good time with season. I hope the podcast can accompany you on some good runs.

I hope you're having some good time with loved ones, family, whoever it might be,

and enjoy this conversation with a man who is redefining success in the sport of running,

Mr. Coach Kelly Christensen.

Ladies and gentlemen, the champion is back on the podcast.

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