Welcome to Current Affairs. My name is Nathan Robinson. I am the editor-in-chief of Current Affairs Magazine.

My guests today are Sean Villiers and Aaron Moritz. They are the creators and hosts of the utopian leftist comedy podcast.

Seriously wrong.

They are also the creators of the new animated series, Papa and Boy, available on Means TV, which is described as an animated

comedy about the fraught relationship between a father and his always questioning son,

who live in a world inhabited only by fathers and sons.

Sean and Aaron, welcome to Current Affairs.

Thank you for joining me today.

Well, thank you for having us.

Yeah, yeah, happy to be here.

I've listened to seriously wrong before

and enjoyed it tremendously.

This new series, this cartoon, this animated series, Papa and Boy, is what we're here

to discuss today.

And I, what you're going to have to do for our listeners is you're going to have to explain it in a way that intrigues them.

So tell us what is the pitch for Papa and Boy?

Yeah, Papa and Boy is like a 10-minute comedy cartoon series with some heavy political themes,

but it's, I think,

accessible to a wide audience, including even children. It's about a father and a son and a

society inhabited entirely by fathers and sons. So like, if you want to imagine what it's like

to go around, if you go to a falafel stand, there's a falafel boy and a falafel man there selling

falafels together, if you get in a taxi cab, taxi cab papa, taxi cab boy in the front seat, yada, yada, yada, et cetera for the entirety of their world.

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