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How do we talk about Charlie Kirk?

It's Been a Minute

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🗓️ 12 September 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

How did you respond to the assassination of Charlie Kirk? Many mourned or called for revenge. Others pointed to Kirk's extreme, bigoted statements as justification. But how do those reactions impact how the American public will metabolize another instance of gun violence?

Brittany is joined by Abené Clayton, a gun violence reporter for The Guardian, to get into how Kirk's assassination fits into the broader narrative of political violence and how Kirk's own statements about guns will shape the coming political discourse.

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podcasts. Hello, hello. I'm Brittany Luce and you're listening to It's Been a Minute from NPR,

0:31.1

a show about what's going on in culture and why it doesn't happen by accident.

0:50.7

On Wednesday, the right-wing political commentator Charlie Kirk was shot and killed while speaking at a university in Utah.

0:57.6

There is still so much you and I do not know about this story, and I encourage you to follow NPR's coverage for the most accurate reporting. But here's something I do know. America is

1:04.0

divided on how to respond to this moment. I've seen some people on the right calling for revenge.

1:11.3

I've seen some people on the left, indifferent, or even cheering, that this right-wing

1:15.4

pundit who frequently spouted bigoted views was killed.

1:19.5

I've also seen people of all political backgrounds, fearing for what the shooting and the reaction

1:24.1

to it mean for this country's future.

1:27.2

And that's what I want to get into here.

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The polarizing response to the shooting of Charlie Kirk

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and what Kirk's own statements on gun violence

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might tell us about what happens next.

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To do that, I'm joined by Abine Clayton.

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She's a gun violence reporter for The Guardian.

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Hi, Abeney.

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Hi, Brittany. Okay, so I know you and I have both been glued to the coverage of this moment. I imagine like so many people listening to our

1:52.2

conversation right now, from what you've seen and heard, how would you describe the reaction to

1:57.0

this moment? Well, the reaction has been one of the least surprising things I've seen.

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