Welcome to Questions in the Closets. I'm Van Chiladdie. And I'm Charlie Bird. Each episode we discuss a question that we commonly get asked as LGBT Q Latter-day Saints.

We are not trying to answer this question or come to a consensus but simply

sharing our perspectives. Today's question is how do I navigate conflicting

feelings about the Family Proclamation?

So Charlie and I are not terribly diverse and we share many opinions and life experiences.

For example, we both love to travel and have been to many of the same places.

However, there are some pretty big differences for example I love going

to museums when I travel and then hates going to museums. I really do hate going

to museums I when I was in Paris my friend that I went to the Louve for two hours and we would have gotten out

faster but it is very big and we got very lost.

Oh my gosh I'm crying inside.

I could spend I could spend like seven years and still not be done with it.

And you know I know a lot of people are like that. I'm just not a museum guy. So yeah, I mean to me good

artwork is Greg Olson.

No, I'm just kidding.

But what I'm traveling, my very favorite thing to do is like rent a bike and like bike around before in city. I love to do that. That is nice. I like to do that too.

So we would like to provide a variety of voices and perspectives. So today we're joined by John

Gustav Rathol. Hello.

Before we have John introduce himself,

I just want to tell a little personal experience

that I had with him.

So before I had met John, I had heard of him.

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