Welcome to questions from the closet. I'm Charlie Bird and I'm Ben Shalati.

Each episode we discuss a question that we commonly get asked as LGBTQ Latter Day Saints. We are not

not trying to answer this question or come to a consensus but simply sharing our perspectives.

Today's question is how do I fit in the plan of salvation?

Ben and I are not terribly diverse and we share many opinions in life experiences.

For example, this past Saturday we spend the afternoon raking leaves for a widow.

However, there are some pretty big differences. For example, I raked leaves for about three hours and you came out for what, 20 minutes?

Probably about 20 minutes.

So I started raking and I raked like two leaffuls and then a big gust came and blew the leaves farther back than

they had come from and so I was like I can't do this on my own so I texted a bunch of people

including you and you were asleep. It was 1 p.m.

No, it was 10 when I texted you.

And then I texted a couple of friends.

My friend Heidi came and saved the day.

But then you came out for a while and just took selfies.

Yeah, I took selfies.

I also made a pretty nice leaf

pile that I jumped in. I had a good time. They were almost done by the time I

got there. But you were actually quite helpful for those 20 minutes. Thanks I

didn't do what I can. Thank you Charlie. Well we would like to provide a variety of voices and perspectives on our show so today we're joined by Terrell

Terrell. So tell us a little bit about yourself Terrell. Well I spent most of my professional life as a professor of literature and religion at the

University of Richmond, Virginia.

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