How did we get so red, white and blue?
Civics 101
NHPR
4.2 • 2.6K Ratings
🗓️ 2 June 2026
⏱️ 31 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Colleen Shogan, the 11th Archivist of the United States, and this is In Pursuit, a podcast |
| 0:05.8 | exploring lessons from America's past to write the history of America's future. This season, |
| 0:11.7 | we are examining the defining moments faced by America's presidents and first ladies. |
| 0:16.9 | Join us as we uncover the stories that shape the nation and the lessons that still matter today. |
| 0:22.8 | In Pursuit with Colleen Shogun, premiering April 7th, wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:28.1 | Brought to you by PRX. |
| 0:30.2 | Nick, the other day I was craving a vanilla soft serve ice cream with rainbow sprinkles because I have never not craved a vanilla soft serve with |
| 0:39.2 | rainbow sprinkles. And at a certain point, I realized that as an adult, I can just choose |
| 0:45.5 | to eat kid-coded desserts and I will be just fine. Just a quick reminder, Hannah, |
| 0:50.3 | this is Civics 101. I'm Hannah McCarthy. And I'm Nick Capadice, and I'm here to get you back on |
| 0:55.7 | track. Okay, this story serves a purpose, I promise. Because when my ardently anticipated ice cream was |
| 1:02.6 | handed out that window, it was not rainbow sprinkled at all. Everybody's on the edge of their seats here, |
| 1:09.5 | Hannah. The sprinkles were red, white, and blue. |
| 1:12.9 | And I thought, right, of course. It's almost summer. It is almost the 4th of July. It is almost the |
| 1:20.4 | 250th birthday of America. So red, white, and blue, which are everywhere anyway, was going to be especially everywhere lately. |
| 1:30.4 | And then I thought, you know, I really wish that I could ask for regular rainbow sprinkles, |
| 1:34.6 | but what would that say about me? |
| 1:36.5 | Probably that you're more red than you are red, white, and blue, if you know what I'm saying, Anna. |
| 1:41.3 | Probably. |
| 1:42.6 | So today, wherefore the American obsession, devotion, adoration, deification of the red, white, |
| 1:50.5 | and blue. |
| 1:51.5 | Now, Nick, ours is not the only flag with these colors. |
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