Greetings and salutations. Welcome back to Life and Books and Everything. I am Kevin D. Young, although my squadcast name is Practical Wires. And I'm with Colin Hansen, who's always good at inputting his real name.

And then Justin Taylor, lead singer for the Who, though it's all capital letters.

So you mean to develop their World Health Organization.

They can use a lead finger these days.

Good to be with you all.

And we are joined today with our special

guest, Carl Truman. They have let you out of the Grove City Conservatory to entertain us and

let us ply you with questions. Carl, thanks for being here with us. It's a pleasure, Kevin. Thanks for having me on.

All right. We're going to jump right in. What we're doing is we are talking about Carl's new book,

which is getting a lot of attention, and rightfully so. It's a brilliant book.

The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self, Cultural Amnesia, expressive individualism, and the road to

sexual revolution.

Rod Dreher wrote a very nice forward, and Crossway, big fan and sometimes sponsor of this program,

has published the book, and it's a real achievement.

I'm going to jump in, and I underlined a lot in this book

and this is from page 266, this paragraph, which I think is not a bad launching off place

to have you give something of a brief summary of your argument. I'll read it here. Once identity was understood

to be sexual, then it was only a matter of time before sex became political. And in the hands of,

and just for our listeners, we're going to scoot by these names right now and not focus on them so much as the idea and the

history that Carl is tracing.

But I'll read them.

And in the hands of William Reich and Herbert Marcus, that is exactly what happened.

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