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How DHS Got This Way

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Politics, News, News Commentary

4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 28 July 2020

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

The Department of Homeland Security was built to protect the country from terrorists. But its mission was always expansive. After the bizarre detainments in Portland, we’re seeing a reckoning with what this super-agency does. 

Guest: Jonathan Blitzer, staff writer for the New Yorker. 

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0:00.0

There's this video that came out of Portland the other night.

0:07.8

Just a 45-second snippet of the protests happening there.

0:11.9

I've been watching it again and again.

0:14.2

In it, you see these federal agents, the ones that have been dispatched to guard a courthouse downtown.

0:20.7

They surround a man, get him on the ground, force him to lie down.

0:25.4

And then, these clouds of tear gas roll in, obscuring the shot.

0:31.3

You can see legs, flashlights, people in uniform.

0:35.5

And then you hear the man scream.

0:38.7

To me, help, help!

0:42.4

I can't be here.

0:44.8

To me, this video, it's a crystallization

0:48.8

of the kinds of tactics the government's been using

0:51.3

in this second wave of violence

0:53.8

against Black Lives

0:54.8

Matter protesters. Overwhelming force, sure, but also obfuscation. The officers here,

1:03.8

reportedly from the Department of Homeland Security, are faceless, nameless, retreating and

1:10.2

reappearing inside a kind of mist. Yeah, I mean, there's very little, nameless, retreating and reappearing, inside a kind of mist.

1:13.3

Yeah, I mean, there's very little, on a good day, DHS operates with very little transparency.

1:18.9

Jonathan Blitzer covers Homeland Security for the New Yorker.

1:22.1

He's seen officers like this working along the border, but not in urban centers.

1:27.7

Over the years, he's gotten used to thinking of the Department of Homeland Security

1:31.0

as an agency that operates under a shadow.

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