So as we fight this war, the enemy, I think, the main, our main opponent is cultural Marxism.

It's a really interesting and deep subject, and we have a great report on it by Catherine Gorka,

Catherine served at the Department of Homeland Security during the Trump administration.

She most recently was the Director for Civil Society and the American Dialogue at the Heritage

Foundation. And she's the core author of this very thorough report, a heritage foundation,

special report called How Cultural Marxism threatens the United States and how Americans can fight

it. Catherine is good to have you on. Hey, it is so good to be here. Well, this is a terrifying

report, but I think before we get to the terrifying part, I want you to explain what cultural Marxism

is, why it's cultural and why it's Marx, and what makes it Marxism. Okay, all super important

questions and questions that we also thought were important to answer, and that's part of what we

did in the paper. So Marxism, you know, and it is something that's really hotly debated,

is this Marxism or not? But I think it is in the sense that it really believes it has to tear down

what's here. It has to tear down the existing society in order for it to survive. And I think

because of the way it sees the world as oppressor and oppressed, those are fundamentally Marxists.

Now, a lot of people will say, but this isn't Marxism because it doesn't focus on, you know,

the economic element of life. No, that's why we call it cultural Marxism. And this is something

that came about through the thinking of the Italian communist Antonio Gramsci. He saw in the 1930s

that the workers revolts that Marx had predicted were not happening in the industrialized societies

of the West. They weren't happening in the United States. I mean, yes, communism got a foothold

here, but it never really took off, right? And Gramsci saw this in the United States, in Italy,

in France, and Germany. And he realized that they are not going to bring about Marxism or communism

through a frontal assault of the worker on the middle class. No, we had to have a different

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