That's hard, but I would say that, so here's where I'd piece it together.

Maths, five wins individually is obviously more impressive than riches, four wins individually.

But it's not just about that.

Maths, five wins are substantially more impressive than riches, four individual wins,

because he was in a more grown up matured sport.

And the competition was much stiffer, and he won by a much, much bigger margin.

So now that you have maths like really superior to riches there, then you have riches, supreme

dominance over a decade.

We are here because we know the outcomes in our lives are within our control.

That taking absolute ownership of how we eat, sleep, train, think, and connect with each

other is how we'll optimize our health and happiness.

That chasing excellence is how we grab hold of what is possible.

Our mission is to live on the run.

Always chasing, never stop.

Hello and welcome back to chasing excellence.

How are you doing today, Ben?

I'm doing very good Patrick.

We are jumping back to our hopper talk.

Hopper talk is relatively new for us.

I think this is the third time we've done it.

And it is really our excuse to have a little bit of fun and answer some very random questions

and have a conversation that I think so far people have been responding well to it.

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