Christella Alonso made history as the first Latina to create, produce, and star in a network sitcom.

And in the time since, she's been sifting through what this extraordinary rise

in status and stardom means for a kid from a border town grew up squatting in a diner.

Luckily for us, she's done a lot of that thinking out loud as part of her Netflix trilogy,

lower classy, middle classy, and now, finally, upper classy. Chris and I talk about how these

specials come together, how hard it is for someone

who grew up in extreme poverty to ever stop living in survival mode no matter how much money

or how much fame they have, and learning to swim as an adult as a form of letting go.

If you enjoy our conversation, you can watch it with a video on our YouTube page.

Congratulations on the special. I loved it. Thanks. I know it's been a long time in the making. I'm tired.

Yeah.

This is the last trip I'm doing to promote it and I'm tired.

Yeah.

Oh, so hard.

So hard having a top 10 watched on Netflix special.

Sometimes I remember my mom cooking in a kitchen and I'm like, this is samecies.

She would come home with burns and I'm like, Mommy, I had to do makeup and hair today at noon.

Take off my false lashes.

Okay, so first some questions about how these specials come together. Yes. Which is, so you're

workshopping material on the road for how long? As long as it takes. So there's some comics that

will try to do a new special every year and a half. And to me, having a deadline like that is so

ridiculous. Why would you do that to yourself?

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