What if fear could actually fuel creativity instead of blocking it?

Welcome to the commune podcast.

My name is Jeff Krasnow.

My guest today is Elise Lunin, author, editor, and formerly the host of both the Goop Podcast

and the Goop Lab on Netflix.

Her books include On Our Best Behavior, an examination of the Seven Deadly Sins and the Shadow

they have cast on women, and also true and false magic with the brilliant therapist, Phil Stutz.

Our jumping off point for this conversation was an article, Elise, recently published on

Substack about creativity, an increasingly precious human endeavor in the age of AI and shorter and

shorter attention spans.

In today's episode, we cover how fear isn't just a block, but also a catalyst

for creativity. We discuss how boredom is actually a crucible for creative breakthroughs. We talk

about the balance of structure and surrender in the artistic process and art as a life-affirming act in chaotic times like these.

I hope this conversation is a stimulus for your own creativity and ingenuity and perseverance.

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Okay, let's get into it with Elise Loonen.

Okay, welcome to the podcast, Elise. How are you?

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