How COVID and HIV/AIDS Can Help Us Get Ready For (or Avoid) the Next Pandemic

In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt

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4.6 • 3.5K Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2021

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Dr. Bob calls up AIDS researcher Carlos del Rio and longtime AIDS activist Gregg Gonsalves to explore what the HIV/AIDS epidemic of the ‘80s and ‘90s can teach us about COVID-19 today. They discuss the politicization of both viruses, how the role of activism compares, and how the 30-plus-year quest for an HIV vaccine helped advance the COVID-19 vaccines. Plus, what HIV/AIDS can show us about what it means to return to “normal.” Follow Dr. Bob on Twitter @Bob_Wachter and check out In the Bubble’s new Twitter account @inthebubblepod. Find Gregg Gonsalves @gregggonsalves and Carlos Del Rio @CarlosdelRio7 on Twitter. Keep up with Andy in D.C. on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. In the Bubble is supported in part by listeners like you. Become a member, get exclusive bonus content, ask Andy questions, and get discounted merch at https://www.lemonadamedia.com/inthebubble/ Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NEJFhcReE4ejw2Kw7ba8DVJ1xQLogPwA/view Check out these resources from today’s episode: Watch Dr. Fauci’s full 1984 lecture on research, findings, and questions related to AIDS: https://youtu.be/pzK3dg59TuY Learn more about pioneering AIDS activist Larry Kramer, who died last year: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/27/us/larry-kramer-dead.html Listen to President Reagan’s Press Secretary, Larry Speakes, laughing about AIDS in the 1980s: https://youtu.be/yAzDn7tE1lU Don’t miss this In the Bubble episode with HIV prevention researcher Julia Marcus: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/is-it-ok-to-hug-your-family-after-vaccine-julia-marcus/id1504128553?i=1000507543756 Check out former Surgeon General David Satcher’s 2005 paper about about health disparities between Black and white Americans: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/7976375_What_If_We_Were_Equal_A_Comparison_of_the_Black-White_Mortality_Gap_in_1960_and_2000 Read more about Dr. Fauci’s plenary lecture on the HIV and COVID-19 pandemics at the CROI 2021 conference: https://www.niaid.nih.gov/news-events/research-highlights-croi-2021 Read the New York Times article, ‘America’s Hidden H.I.V. Epidemic,’ that Gregg mentions in today’s episode: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/06/magazine/americas-hidden-hiv-epidemic.html Watch an entire performance of Jean Sibelius’s Finlandia here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=fE0RbPsC9uE Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/ To follow along with a transcript and/or take notes for friends and family, go to www.lemonadamedia.com/show/in-the-bubble shortly after the air date. Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:14.5	But that's exactly where much of the research is going on at the present time.
1:20.4	We don't know a lot about AIDS, but we also know an incredible amount about it from our
1:25.9	experience over the past three or four years.
1:29.5	And hopefully our recent advances of being able to isolate, identify and characterize the
1:36.8	agent together with the advances in understanding the natural history and pathophysiology of
1:42.9	this disease, will allow us over the next year to come back to you and tell you that we
1:48.5	now not only have hope and hypothesis, but that we have a real prevention and indeed a
1:54.8	real cure.
2:04.0	Welcome to In the Bubble, I'm Dr. Bob Wachter.
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