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How Covid-19 hurt department stores

Recode Daily

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Society & Culture, Science, Technology

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 29 March 2021

⏱️ 9 minutes

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From the Recode Daily archives (Nov. 30, 2020): Recode’s Jason Del Rey explains how the pandemic battered an already-struggling retail industry and the path forward for malls and department stores. Read Jason's story here. Host: Teddy Schleifer (@teddyschleifer) Enjoyed this episode? Rate us ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode by subscribing in your favorite podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Teddy. This week, Rico daily is on Spring Break.

0:04.3

All week will be bringing you our favorite episodes from the last few months.

0:08.1

Hope you enjoy and see you again next Monday.

0:15.2

Today is Cyber Monday. It's a great time to get good deals online and keep on

0:20.6

shopping for the holidays. And this year, like last year, Cyber Monday sales are likely

0:25.7

going to be bigger than they were on the other big day of the post Thanksgiving rush,

0:30.6

Black Friday. This is all part of a trend accelerated by the pandemic, the death of in-person

0:37.4

retail shopping that stuff you do on Black Friday. Jason Delray, Rico is retail correspondent.

0:43.2

This year, talk about it. Hey, Jason. Hey, Dylan, Teddy.

0:46.4

So bring me back to before the pandemic. What was happening to the mall, the department store,

0:52.4

even before any of us knew about COVID?

0:55.4

Department stores were really, really struggling. This is not a new thing in so much as it's been a

1:03.3

slow contraction of the department store sector that's definitely gone on for the last decade

1:08.3

and probably some signs of it even before that. The department stores and the malls,

1:13.2

their fate is somewhat intertwined. Department stores are often what's called the anchor tenants

1:20.4

that sit on the outside of the malls and are charged with sort of attracting the foot traffic

1:25.3

that then, you know, proceeds into the rest of the mall. The malls in a lot of parts of this

1:30.3

country have also been struggling with the exception of, you know, some of the big premium malls

1:38.0

that have sort of top tier brands that attract the one or five percent of the US population that

1:45.5

has a lot of disposable income, like those who largely have done okay. But outside of that,

1:50.8

been basically a disastrous, you know, last five to 10 years, even before the pandemic.

1:56.2

Tell me like what happens to the retail industry over the last couple of months?

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