Welcome to the Green Alliance podcast. We're the charity and think tank that is all about achieving ambitious leadership for the environment. I'm Jim Elliott, policy advisor on the natural environment, bringing you highlights from our debate on how new money for cutting carbon could change our countryside.

Taking place on one of the hottest February days on record, our panel of experts discussed

what needs to change in the way we use and manage land in order to achieve ambitious greenhouse

gas emissions reductions and what role new markets for carbon credits could play in kick-starting

this transition. Joining our chair, Chief Executive of Leif, Caroline Drummond, was team leader at the Committee on Climate Change, Ava Kermitovich,

Director and co-founder of Forest Carbon, James Hepburn Scott, Head of Real Assets at Insight Investment,

Debtlef Schoen, Chief Executive of the Soil Association Helen Browning,

and NFU's Director of Policy Andrew Clark. The event launched our new report with the National

Trust titled New Roots to Decarbonise Land Use with Natural Infrastructure Schemes,

which aims to increase the number of projects that can contribute to climate change mitigation.

To kick off the debate, here's Patrick Begg, outdoors and natural resources director at the National

Trust, to give us an overview.

It couldn't be more apposite to be thinking about this now. Just on the back of the IPCC reports, it's telling us not only do we have to do something

about climate change, but land management and farming has got a massive part to play. It is the

flatlining sector. It is the place where we have the greatest headroom to do something about

tackling climate change through carbon management.

And that is in the UK but also worldwide.

And our report is all about the kind of measures that farmers can undertake, working collaboratively

in that group of sellers, selling a product to a group of buyers.

What kind of measures would you be able to do as a farmer

that would deliver more carbon sequestration and fewer emissions from your operation,

which could then be attractive for a buyer, which could add on top of the kind of measures

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