How Clinton-Lewinsky Set The Template For Modern Politics [Part Two]
This Day (An America 250 History Show)
Jody Avirgan & Radiotopia
4.5 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 12 March 2026
⏱️ 35 minutes
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Summary
Our conversation about the Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky affair continues, with a look at the changing media environment, the rise of FOX News, and how this created a template for the modern hyper-politicized scandal.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to this day, a history show from Radiotopia. My name is Jody Avergan. |
| 0:12.5 | It's 50 Weeks that shaped America, Week 10, Part 2, 1998. What are the numbers can I throw at our listeners to confuse them? |
| 0:20.0 | But look, listeners, here we are. |
| 0:21.6 | I'm not here to confuse. |
| 0:22.7 | I'm here to pick up the story of Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky, |
| 0:25.4 | Linda Tripp, Ken Starr, Scandal, Internet News, Matt Drudge, and lots more. |
| 0:29.9 | Before we reset where we are in the story here, as always, Nicole Hammer of Vanderbilt |
| 0:34.5 | and Kelly Carter Jackson of Wellesley. |
| 0:36.6 | Hello there. |
| 0:37.2 | Hello, Jody. Hey there. So last episode, we talked about how the affair between Lewinsky and |
| 0:42.6 | Clinton started in November of 95 during a government shutdown, how it lasted all the way through |
| 0:48.6 | 96 into the very beginning of 97. And then over the course of 97, a slow trickle of information and |
| 0:55.9 | depositions and scandal about it, it then explodes into the public in January of 98. We talked |
| 1:02.5 | about the Drudge Report having broken it online and then all the legacy media having to |
| 1:07.6 | scramble. And we mentioned that there was a kind of new dynamic here between the |
| 1:11.9 | world of online journalism and what we would often call traditional outlets like newspaper and the |
| 1:17.5 | networks. And of course, in all of this, there's also cable news, especially since this was a |
| 1:22.9 | GOP-driven scandal in many ways, Fox News is a huge force, and that is where I want to start. |
| 1:28.6 | The first time we've really dug into the role of Fox News in American politics and culture during this series. |
| 1:34.8 | And I don't know, Nikki, it's not like Fox News's legacy media at this point. |
| 1:40.5 | So, like in the grand scheme of things, are they, like, the new kids on the block still? |
| 1:44.5 | Or are they closer to Drudge and the online shit kickers? Or are they more, you know, traditional media? |
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