Once upon a time, Disney was a motion picture studio in a sea of Hollywood studios doing something nobody else was doing.

Disney's business is memory making. Disney's business is tradition.

But here's the thing about kingdoms.

They don't last forever.

To survive, Disney had to grow.

But has that tremendous growth eroded what made Disney, Disney.

And I don't know the world cares that this is a Disney movie anymore. I'm Joe

Italian. I'm hosting Land of the Giants, the Disney Telepa, from Bulcher on the Box Media Podcast Network.

Follow Land of the Giants wherever you listen to hear new episodes every Wednesday. Daniel we are back today with the eater upsell. How are you doing? I feel good. I feel good good I feel good I I feel I feel amped because I've had a lot of coffee but

also because we'd Rocco we have Rocco de Spirito on the show today.

We sure did.

As someone that's been chronicling this world

for a fair amount of time, long time.

Fair to long.

Who is Rocco to Spirito?

Okay well what's interesting is i started doing this a decade ago.

Yeah this was already after Rocco was off the scene.

Right.

But Rocco was basically this phenom in the late 90s early 2000s like he was the

shit he was the man he had this restaurant called Union Pacific that everyone freaked out about.

Ruth Reichell gave it three stars.

He was on the cover of Form A.

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