My MB Alex breakdown is supported by Helix sleep. Bring is in the air and so are all of the allergens that come with it. Spring allergens means you need more sleep, but there are a ton of factors that can prevent us from getting a good night's rest. Night sweats, back pain, feeling the person next to you when they roll over a million times. We were so excited to hear that Helix wanted to partner with us. I've had my Helix mattress for about five years now and I have been sleeping so much better. Jonathan and also our kids love their Helix mattresses and all of those issues, night sweats, back pain, motion transfer, those things are significantly better with a Helix mattress. Helix delivers your mattress right to your door, which is so much fun with free shipping in the US. They have a 120 night sleep trial and limited lifetime warranty plus. They're happy with Helix guarantee. Rest easy with seamless returns and exchanges. The happy with Helix guarantee offers a risk-free customer first experience designed to ensure that you're completely satisfied with your new mattress. Go to helixleap.com slash breakdown for 27% off site wide. That's helixleap.com slash breakdown for 27% off site wide. helixleap.com slash breakdown. I was array of light exalted high above the earth. I could see in every direction simultaneously. And every time I took a breath, this beautiful horizon would just rise up like the bends of a giant stingray swimming under the sea just in slow motion. As I would take another breath, it would just keep rising and falling. And it was so beautiful. I knew that this was the truth of who I was. You're being very casual about. I instantly started having transcendental experiences. How long did you stay there? When I came back down into the room, my life was changed forever. Dr. Sue Mortar is a renowned international speaker, author, master of bioenergetics medicine. Whatever is stored in subconscious memory is going to be utilized as a checklist to see how safe am I today. If I'm a constant warrior over time, my subconscious thinks I have good reason to worry. The mind is designed to serve something greater than itself. That thing that is greater than itself is the real you. It's the real you. The one that existed before we experienced the story of our lives. How do we get in touch with the soul? We're not only connected to God, we're made of it, which is to awaken to a greater version of who we are, versus one who is stuck in fight or fight. What if I didn't have to earn my way into heaven, but what if I was made of it? Shhh. BEEP. BEEP. Hi, I'm Mayan Viallik. And I'm Jonathan Cohen. And welcome to our breakdown. Today is all about energy. How are thoughts vibrate at a specific frequency? And as we wake up to the true nature of ourselves, we can begin to have a spiritual awakening, find our soul's purpose, and transform our lives. If you've ever wondered what people are talking about when they talk about energy, or you have blocked energy, or I can see the energy around you, we're going to speak to someone who's going to explain all of it. Dr. Sue Mortar is a renowned international speaker, author, master of bioenergetics medicine. Her book, The Energy Codes, is a seven-step system to awaken your spirit, heal your body, and live your best life. But her work is based around the notion that there's different energy in our body that we can channel and direct in certain places. And she teaches an entire system of ways to access these different levels of energy, which she believes relate to consciousness and a connection with the larger universe. She also explains that the stories we tell are past experiences, the pain that we're holding, which once kept us safe is actually limiting us. It's preventing our bodies from healing, it's preventing us from finding novel solutions to our problems, from being creative, from thinking outside of the box, and from really being present in our own lives. She describes how our bodies are speaking to us, giving us signals that we're failing to listen to. Dr. Sue is gonna also take us through, I'd say one of the best spiritual awakening moments I have heard,

the way that she describes what happened to her in a deep meditative trance.

It's an unbelievable story and it led her on the course of her life. Her next book coming out

March 2026. We're so excited to speak to Dr. Sue Morder. Welcome to the breakdown. Break it down. Thank you. It is a pleasure to be here. What do you think people should know about the work that you do in terms of the impact it can have on their lives? One of the things that happens for people in life is that we get caught up in thinking that we are our thoughts and our personalities and our story and our history and with the work that I do in teaching people how to get underneath the story of their lives and work with the raw energy of flow or no flow. What happens is they begin to become empowered and they don't get distracted or dispersed by thoughts and patterns and beliefs that have been stored based on past experience or a fear based reality that most people are living in. are living in. And so because everything is energy, what we're doing is learning to work with

the energy of our lives instead of the opinions and attitudes and dispositions and premature conclusions

that we've drawn. So what happens is a reduction of stress because we begin to recognize different energies as they flow through our body. Instead of calling them anxiety, we understand that it's actually something wanting to ignite and emerge from within. And what happens is people begin to use their mind in a creative manner instead of a protective manner. And that reduces the stress load and increases the energy that is really maintained for creating a better life for ourselves, innovating, and really generating the life experience that we'd like to have, rather than just getting better at protecting ourselves from something that someone else is creating. Maybe we can start with you sort of taking us through this energy, right? Because many people know that they have feelings or they have thoughts and sometimes they can feel it in their body. But can you give us a little primer into what is this energy? How should we be thinking about it? And in particular, you have this fantastic diagram. You know, these levels of energy that come out from us, describe how we should be framing that in terms of us being energetic bodies. So the energy, the quality of the energy that we're working with is the energy of creation. Truly, it's the energy that is the backdrop for all of life. And that might be a big thing for us to try to wrap our minds around, but this might help. A physical law is that all physical matter is compressed energy.

So in order to get a physical body, energy has compressed and compressed and compressed and compressed and compressed and it generates this physical form that we are living in. But at the end of the day, it's still energy. And so, various levels and layers of our being vibrate at different frequencies, as one

might imagine our being vibrate at different frequencies. As one might imagine, our thoughts vibrate at a different frequency than our bones. We can change our thoughts pretty rapidly. It's energy that is very malleable. And when we get more and more dense into the compressions of our physical existence, it becomes more dance and less and more stable, I should say. So, it's really the energy of creative force, the life force itself, source, energy that we're working with, and our thoughts and emotions and our chemistries and our felt sensations in our body are all various, think of it as different radio stations, different vibrational frequency versions of the one true whole self that we are. And so when someone is having feelings and emotions and they're feeling these ripples or these jolt in the body or that we would call anxiousness or nervousness, anxiety, fear, what has happened is we've learned that those energies are what we've named them to be as if they are bad. The moment that we name it, now there's a story that goes along with that. So if we name it fear, then the mind starts looking immediately for, okay, what am I afraid of? What's wrong with me? What's going on? And it just starts to escalate the mind's activity away from alpha thinking, alpha frequency, which is our true state, into higher and higher beta even gamma in terms of paranoia and filling in the blanks and writing stories all the time. And so what we're doing is recognizing how to pull people back down out of their head by using their body and their breath to recognize, oh, this is just energy. I don't have to write a story about it. I could just feel it. And if I would feel it, it would start to serve the purpose that it is. And so what happens is we begin to recognize that the energies that we were turning into fear or paranoia or anxiousness

actually become passion and the energies of movement and purpose and

and tenacity and and when they're properly routed. So it's really a matter of integration and understanding

a little bit more about what it means when we're feeling these things. So, all the while, it's so helpful if we recognize that the system is designed for innovation and creativity and success and we are completely constantly supported in the expression and in the experience of those things.

And if we're disconnected, we turn it into something entirely different and we get derailed and start writing stories and then reacting to the stories as if they're true. And the next thing we know, we're creating a reality that is based on a premature conclusion that we drew that we run safe. just because we were feeling this shuttering,

I often use the example of, you know, just before a little baby chicken egg hatches, a baby chick, it starts to vibrate. And as it vibrates, what then happens next is a little beak pokes right through the shell, and it's birthing himself into another world. And the same thing is true inside of our deep core at the solar plexus level where our whole mental activity is actually anchored on an energetic level. It starts to shake when actually this part of our personal identity and our personal power is trying to burr into a new situation, a new version of ourselves, a new realm of expression. But we start to feel that and we shut it down and we try to move away from whatever's making me feel this. And so we're actually coming right up into a threshold of moving into a new reality and then just as we're putting our hand on the doorknob and opening it and we feel the turbulence of that transformation, we shut the whole thing down and try to escape, get away from it, or we become addicted to taking things that cause us to not feel it, all because we have a story written about this feeling that isn't true at all. It's just the story that we've collectively decided to adhere to.

And so humanity is in a constant state of anxiousness or fear-based actions,

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