Well, words have their place, but actions often speak louder than words, and how loving

are you toward your spouse.

I'm John Fuller, along with Greg and Aaron Smalley, who run our marriage department here at

Focus on the Family.

And we're going to hear now from Chris and Jenny Greyby.

They host a podcast called The Rhythm of Us, which is also the title of a book they wrote.

And Chris and Jenny joined Jim Daly and me in the studio to talk about God's love

and how that can motivate you to serve your spouse.

Another positive rhythm that you have in the book is service.

I mean, I think everybody gets that, but practically how does that work in your marriage?

Well, it's so important, right?

And, you know, of the five rhythms, just so people know, like, you know, we've been married

almost 18 years, but in the grim scheme of things, that's not that long.

So...

Although you'll notice young people go 18 years.

I know.

It is five from it.

What do you say 35?

35.

How long have you guys been?

Almost 38.

Okay.

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