How can we actually prevent suicide? Guns, access to means, and the hope of Donna's Law
Back from the Abyss: Psychiatry in Stories | Psychotherapy, Trauma, and Psychedelics
Craig Heacock MD
4.8 • 452 Ratings
🗓️ 20 March 2026
⏱️ 61 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Back from the Abyss. |
| 0:15.5 | This is a place for stories of hope and healing, recovery, and redemption. I'm Dr. Craig Hecock. |
| 0:24.6 | There are still a few spots left in my intensive psychotherapy workshop in June, geared for |
| 0:30.7 | psychiatric NPs and PAs. It's called Bringing Therapy into Med Management. It will run June 3 through 6 |
| 0:36.9 | here in Fort Collins. |
| 0:38.9 | This is a chance to learn how to break out of the short-sighted and terribly limited |
| 0:43.9 | med management model into a more holistic, psychodynamic, and patient-centered way of practicing. |
| 0:51.8 | Check out my website for more details and registration. Today's episode focuses on |
| 0:58.4 | something that almost no one seems to want to talk about. The United States has a major |
| 1:05.0 | suicide problem, around 50,000 people every year, and 60% of those suicides are gun suicides. |
| 1:15.6 | The suicide problem in the United States is largely a gun problem. |
| 1:19.6 | The number one risk factor for completed suicide, it's not depression or anxiety or addiction or acathia, |
| 1:26.6 | it's access to means. And it turns out that it's |
| 1:30.2 | actually not that easy to kill yourself unless you have ready access to a gun. We are finally |
| 1:36.4 | starting to talk about ways to keep guns out of the hands of potentially suicidal people. |
| 1:41.8 | And one concrete step in that direction is something called Donna's Law, |
| 1:46.4 | a program where people can voluntarily be put on a no-cell list during times of psychological |
| 1:52.2 | crisis or instability. Donna's law is named after Donna Nathan, who impulsively bought a handgun |
| 2:00.0 | in 2018 in New Orleans, |
| 2:01.9 | and then shot herself during a period of psychiatric crisis. |
| 2:06.4 | There were no barriers in place, no waiting period, or a no-sell list. |
| 2:12.6 | Donna found easy access to means, and she paid the ultimate price. |
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