Hello, everybody and welcome to Three Point Perspective, the podcast about illustration, how to do it, how to make a living at it, and how to make an impact in the world with your art.

I'm Anthony Wheeler. I'm Lee White. And I'm Will Terry. And all three of us are professional illustrators. We've all worked for all the major publishers in the business.

Together we published somewhere around 75 children's books,

and we've all taught illustration at university art schools.

That's right.

Each week we come at you guys with fantastic listener questions

or famous illustrator interviews.

Sometimes we agree, sometimes we argue,

but each time you learn something,

France banking new. You put some spice onto that today. You know, I'm working with my set up.

You saw my new rig. I did see your new rig. It's awesome. Like, the more I get into it,

the better it gets. So what I'm talking about for those of you guys who don't know,

and you're not following on Instagram, Lee White, L.O. Follow all right. All right.

Shameless pandering back to the audience. Why don't you drop your tarot deck information in there, too? No, so I had an old, I was looking at, I did a watercolor demo last week and I recorded it and I had so many

tripods around me that I swear I was like, it was like I was sneaking into like a secret cave

trying to get to my work because I was stepping over, over tripod legs and under cameras and

stuff. I was like, I got to fix this. So I was looking online and saw these

rigs that basically go over your setup and that holds the lights and the cameras and all that

stuff. They're about, they start about 350 and up. And then they go up. You got to get all this

connectors, all that stuff. And I was like, man, I got this, I got this silver, you know, that

wire kind of bookshelf you get from Home Depot.

I'm sure everybody's got one in their garage, something.

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