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The Ezra Klein Show

How Blue Cities Became So Outrageously Unaffordable

The Ezra Klein Show

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Government, News

4.611K Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2021

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Joe Biden’s economic agenda is centered on a basic premise: The United States needs to build. To build roads and bridges. To build child care facilities and car-charging stations. To build public transit and affordable housing. And in doing so, to build a better future for everyone. But there’s a twist of irony in that vision. Because right now, even in places where Democrats hold control over government, they are consistently failing to build cheaply, quickly and equitably. In recent decades, blue states and cities from Los Angeles to Boston to New York have become known for their outrageously expensive housing, massive homeless populations and infrastructure projects marred by major delays and cost overruns — all stemming from this fundamental inability to actually build. Jerusalem Demsas is a policy reporter at Vox who covers a range of issues from housing to transportation. And the central question her work asks is this: Why is the party that ostensibly supports big government doing ambitious things constantly failing to do just that, even in the places where it holds the most power? So this is a conversation about the policy areas where blue city and state governance is failing the most: housing, homelessness, infrastructure. But it is also about the larger problems that those failures reveal: The tension between big-government liberalism and anti-corporatist progressivism; the cognitive dissonance between what city-dwelling, college-educated liberals say they believe and their inequality-amplifying actions; how reforms intended to make government more accountable to the people have been wielded by special interests to stall or kill popular projects; and much more. Mentioned: “Why does it cost so much to build things in America?” by Jerusalem Demsas “Los Angeles’s quixotic quest to end homelessness” by Jerusalem Demsas “Housing Constraints and Spatial Misallocation” by Chang-Tai Hsieh and Enrico Moretti Public Citizens by Paul Sabin “Zoom Does Not Reduce Unequal Participation” by Katherine Levine Einstein, David Glick, Luisa Godinez Puig, and Maxwell Palmer “The Gavin Newsom Recall Is a Farce” by Ezra Klein “California Is Making Liberals Squirm” by Ezra Klein Book recommendations: Golden Gates by Conor Dougherty The Dispossessed by Ursula Le Guin Stories of Your Life and Others by Ted Chiang You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of "The Ezra Klein Show" at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. “The Ezra Klein Show” is produced by Annie Galvin, Jeff Geld and Rogé Karma; fact-checking by Michelle Harris; original music by Isaac Jones; mixing by Jeff Geld, audience strategy by Shannon Busta. Special thanks to Kristin Lin.

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0:00.0

I'm Ezra Client and this is the Ezra Client Show.

0:21.2

I am a California.

0:22.2

I was born and raised in Southern California.

0:24.8

I was educated in the States of public schools and I graduated from the University of California

0:29.1

system.

0:30.1

I moved back a couple years ago after a long time on the East Coast because I love California.

0:35.5

I'm a California partisan kind of wherever I am.

0:38.8

But I'm also worried about the state I love.

0:41.8

The median price for home in the Golden State is more than $700,000.

0:46.4

It is home to four of the nation's five most expensive housing markets, a quarter of the

0:51.2

nation's homeless residents.

0:53.0

And as a result, California has the highest poverty rate in the nation when you factor

0:56.8

in housing costs.

0:59.5

That is not because of the current set of politicians.

1:03.8

The reason is deeper.

1:05.0

It is very, very, very hard to build things in California, particularly homes.

1:10.3

But it's also just hard to build anything.

1:12.3

After years of delays in cost overruns, California is long anticipated high-speed rail system,

1:17.3

the one that was partially funded by 2009 stimulus dollars.

1:21.2

The one that was supposed to go between Los Angeles and San Francisco.

1:24.4

It's been shrunk to align connecting the mid-sized cities of Bakersfield and Merced.

1:29.0

And it is still tens of billions over budget and years behind schedule.

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