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We did a brain scan study and we did find there are some specific regions of the brain,

which are very activated when someone's experiencing ASMR.

Hey everyone, it's Rosie here.

Welcome back to Radio Headspace.

So have you ever felt that strange tingling sensation when somebody whispers or when you hear the sound of pages turning? It's called

ASMR. And for millions of people, it's become a way to relax and fall asleep. But what's

actually happening in the brain when we experience

ASMR? To help answer that, I'm joined today by Dr. Craig Richard. He spent years studying the

science behind ASMR, and I have to say, it's fascinating. I really hope you enjoy this conversation.

Thank you, Dr. Richard, for being on Radio Headspace.

I'm so excited to have this conversation with you today.

If you don't mind sharing with us and our listeners who you are and what you do.

Craig Richard, I'm a professor of physiology at Shenandoah University in Virginia. I'm the founder of the website, ASMRUniversity.com. I wrote a book about ASMR called Brain Tinkles. And I'm host of the calming podcast Calm History.

Tell us how you got into this. What made you go into studying ASMR?

I can give you the exact year. It was in 2013. I was in my kitchen listening to a podcast,

and the episode in that podcast was about autonomous sensory meridian response.

And that sounded like something physiological, but I'm a physiologist, and I'd never

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