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The Political Scene | The New Yorker

How Arizona Became Ground Zero for Conservative Disinformation About Voter Fraud

The Political Scene | The New Yorker

The New Yorker

Politics, Washington, News, Obama, Wnyc, President, Lizza, Barack, Wickenden

4.33.9K Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2021

⏱️ 25 minutes

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After Joe Biden won Arizona in 2020, Donald Trump began complaining, contrary to fact, that voter fraud took place there and across the country, stealing the election from him. Four audits have since taken place in Arizona, upholding Biden’s victory, but donors are funding yet another ballot count, this time run by the firm Cyber Ninjas. Jane Mayer joins Dorothy Wickenden to discuss the long-running drama in Arizona, and the dark money behind efforts to stoke distrust in the voting system and to undermine the 2024 election.

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It's Thursday, August 5th.

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I'm Dorothy Wickenden, executive editor of The New Yorker.

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President Biden won Arizona in 2020 by a margin of about 10,500 votes,

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helped out considerably by the voters of Maricopa County, which is the most populous

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in the state and increasingly blue. Arizona is a target of former President Trump who persists

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in complaining with no factual basis about widespread voter fraud during the election.

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Four audits of the ballots in Maricopa County were conducted,

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all upholding Biden's victory.

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Nevertheless, conservative donors are funding yet another audit

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run by the Florida-based firm, Cyber Ninjas,

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which has completed a hand count of the ballots.

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